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natbabe1980
#1 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 5:01:41 PM Quote
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Hi everyone,

Just wondering if anyone has had their GP say to them that RA will eventually just burn out. I am so confused if that was the case why are we being treated with such serious drugs or is this part of the burning out process!! I did challenge my GP and said my rheumatologist advised me there is no cure for RA to which she replied that eventually the body heals itself and I will have no pain as an old lady!!! This is the second doctor in the practice to say this to me............ is there any truth to it?

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Natalie xxConfused
SueB
#2 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 5:12:54 PM Quote
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Hi Natalie
Well it sounds good but I'd like to meet one of these old ladies!!!
In the mean time I'll keep taking the tablets.
SueConfused
natbabe1980
#3 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 5:49:20 PM Quote
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That's what I thought Sue,

I think sometimes the doctors are living on another planet yet these are the very professionals we trust !

Louisa
#4 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 7:12:55 PM Quote
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Confused She probably thinks she is bucking you up. I had a GP laugh and tell me that I was 'too young to have RA' once. I despair I really do.
natbabe1980
#5 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 7:43:59 PM Quote
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I know what you mean Louisa, a bit of honesty though would be nice lol xx
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:36:43 PM Quote
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Silly doctor! When I wasn`t getting good care from my local hospital, my GP referred me to another, one of his reasons being " you`ve got this for life, so let`s get you the best treatment."


Kathleen x

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 5:04:50 PM Quote
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This is outrageous. Your GP quite obviously knows nothing about RA. Can I suggest you either ask NAS to send him some information or take some in yourself. It really is quite serious for a GP to have this attitude and the reason NRAS push so hard to educate idiots like this. I make no excuse for being furious. Presumably they also take for ever to refer people to rheumatologists? If I wherein this position, I would write to the practice manager and suggest the GP's in question need some education regarding RA?
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:35:17 PM Quote
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unbelievable,

even if a GP isn't that clued up with RA .. it's a chronic condition, which says it all.

so grateful for a fantastic GP who is very knowledgeable with all things RA,

thought basic information would have been given when he was training, again i think i would take this a little further as it's a worry for your future care as GP goes hand in hand with Rheumatologist ( well it does in my case ) or maybe change Practice,

Suzanne
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:07:22 PM Quote
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Natalie

What an outrageous statement. RA is a chronic incurable disease. Yes it can go into remission but unfortunately this does not happen for many people.

Your GP practice definitely needs to be educated by NRAS information, otherwise you and some possible new RA sufferer are not going to get the care you need.

As suggested already, I would seriously consider writing to the Practice Manager expressing your concerns.

Jackie
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:03:21 PM Quote
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Natalie

Michty me - that must be the best medical statement we could ever hope to hear. What a pity it's untrue..............You would have thought GPs would be clued up enough to know wouldn't you? I hope you eventually find a GP who understands the condition. He/she should maybe go back to med school
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Take care

Lisa xx
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:11:54 PM Quote
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What a strange thing for a GP to say!
I think some literature from NRAS is needed.
Think I might start looking for a new doctor.
Mary x
Louisa
#12 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:06:51 PM Quote
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jeanb wrote:
Presumably they also take for ever to refer people to rheumatologists?


I went to the Doctor saying there was something very wrong. I could hardly move, I was in very bad pain, I was visibly very inflamed in numerous joints, I was exhausted and feverish and it just wasn't improving. After fobbing me off a few times he eventually did blood tests - 'You could be depressed. Try going for a regular walk to boost your mood' - and told me to come back in a fortnight. My inflammatory markers were extremely high, and I had loads of symptoms. So he did another test. I went back a fortnight later, and he sent me for another test. He kept saying 'if we get another really high inflammatory result I will think about sending you to a rheumatologist', then he'd do another test, and I'd come back in a fortnight... this went on for months and months. He told me repeatedly that he would think I had RA if I was older, but...

Then one day out of the blue I got a call saying a different Doctor I had never heard of wanted to see me urgently. I went in and she said the Dr I had been seeing was off sick so she had looked over my last test results and obviously there was a serious problem so she was going to refer me to a rheumatologist. She then realised this had been going on for ages and was obviously shocked. She gave me anti inflamatories and painkillers in the meantime.

If she hadn't turned up at the surgery I'd probably still be going back for fortnightly blood tests until I was deemed 'old enough for RA' ThumbDown
natbabe1980
#13 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:29:19 PM Quote
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Hi Everyone,

Thank you for your support and replies.

I feel this is a tricky situation as on one hand she has been helpful with me financially, we have to pay for GP visits here in Jersey and as she has wanted to see me so regularly due to being on the steroids she has not charged me for my last three visits. I feel that I should write to the practice manager regarding my concerns but at the same time would this be deemed ungrateful for the help I have received?

What do you think?
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:25:19 AM Quote
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Golly gosh, aren't we lucky in the UK. Sorry I had NO idea that
happened in the lovely island of Jersey..Take care.......Anne
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:17:34 AM Quote
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Hi Natalie

Actually to a point the GP is correct! Some forms of disease can burn themselves out, but these are few and far between and not in the case of sero-positive RA. I was told this amazing 'fact' myself some 25 years ago and waited with bated breath ... hmm, it didn't burn itself out, just got a damn sight worse!

Sero-negative RA can sometimes be misdiagnosed as blood test results can be inconclusive and symptoms difficult to manage. The 'arthritis' in certain disease patterns may not actually be Rheumatoid but some other form of the disease which may be reactive and can actually disappear with time. I was part of a study at the time along with two ladies with similar medical history; we had all given birth in the 3-6 months prior to symptoms starting. Of the three, I was the only one to develop aggressive RA disease, in the other two the disease symptoms did in fact burn themselves out and neither has had a recurrence since. The only conclusion we could reach was that some years previously I had had glandular fever which left me susceptible to immune problems. The symptoms in the other two ladies may well have been a reaction to the change in hormonal activity which mimicked RA but settled down in time.

How you deal with it is a difficult one but if you trust the GP and feel confident I would let it go. It sounds as though she was trying to incite an element of optimism to spur you on. Find out as much as you are able about the disease and your own patterns of symptoms, that way you will be able to report back more ably and perhaps cut down on routine appointments. Taking control of your disease, finding out how it affects you personally is one of the first steps to 'being in charge of your life' again.

Good luck with it Natalie,

Lyn xx
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:18:12 PM Quote
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hi nat

what a load of rubbish!

I do know there are some people who get remission, I met an older lady in hospital, who had awful RA for 20 years, lot of surgery in her 50s and then she had the change and the RA went.
that was that. but now in her 80s, it has started again. Ive known a couple of people who have felt healed and great for them, but its not the general course of things Im afraid.

once i had someone tell me every 7 years your body will renew itself and the RA therefore

theres all kinds of twaddle about!

youve got RA and until theres a cure we are all managing the conditions as best we can.

my ex GP took a year telling me I had a virus, that I was too young for anything serious and even refused to take a blood test. But one night a locum dr came out and took some bloods and the rest, is historyRollEyes

how are you feeling today?

Jenni x

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natbabe1980
#17 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 6:33:25 PM Quote
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Hi Jenni and to all for your lovely replies and advice,

I am just going to take it on the chin, I have wonderful support from my rheumatologist nurse and team and I feel they are the ones most involved with my care also my OT has been amazing.

I am a lot more positive these past few weeks, this is an awful disease to have and some days are better than others but if we do not fight on we can only stop and with a young family its not an option for me.

I am so grateful for all of you for making me feel so welcome and your advice is cherished and appreciated. Seems to be the best place to arm ourselves with all the information we need.

Big hugs
Natalie xxx

ClaireSctl
#18 Posted : Friday, August 09, 2013 9:19:38 AM Quote
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sorry to jump in on this topic guys... Louisa really interested to hear you were told you were too young for RA. Do you mind me asking how old you were when they said that? The reason I ask is if I had a quid for every time I'd been told in the last 5 months that I'm 'too young for RA' (I'm 27) my student loans would be paid!! Its annoys me so much when I get told that!!
Naomi1
#19 Posted : Monday, August 26, 2013 10:49:02 PM Quote
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It's sad to hear that so many people here struggled to get diagnosed. I was seeing GPs for 2 years and begging them to find out what was wrong. I even suggested it might be RA as the symptoms seemed to fit but I was told that as I wasn't losing weight it couldn't be RA. Eventually I had such a massive whole body flare that I could barely move and couldn't stand up unaided or even feed myself. It makes me feel angry when I think back to how the GPs kept telling me it was my age (so why didn't my peers feel the same in their mid forties) or that I needed to exercise more or that I might be depressed. Having RA is bad enough without having to fight battles with the medical profession. Eventually when I got diagnosed my overwhelming feeling was relief that at last I was being believed. At one time I had even questioned my own sanity when the GPs were telling me there was nothing wrong. I actually had to change surgeries to find a GP that would refer me. It's not as though RA is extremely rare with 1% of the population getting it so why are so many GPs so ignorant?
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